“The Fox ditto is won and lost on two things which is edgeguarding and reversals”

General / Neutral

“The Fox ditto is won and lost on two things which is edgeguarding and reversals”
- You don’t want to force too much because of Fox’s defensive game (shine out of shield, fullhops, dashback, ect)
When neutral resets it’s typically better to be moving around rather than trying to hit the other Fox. This will reduce the chances of getting hit by a reversal.
“Try to minimize the number of decisions you make that are punishable”
- Fox is such a solid character that you don’t need to commit or make big reads.
By default if everything is going your way the match should go opening > armada shine > opening > armada shine. The better players are just better at avoiding this.
Fullhopping through center is really strong as opposed to grounded options.
Shorthop nair pokes aren’t a great neutral option. It gets too easily stuffed by fullhop.
Shorthop nair’s only bonus over fullhop nair is that it comes out faster. But in this matchup you care more about positioning rather than frame data.
“Fullhop is a vertical dashback. You come down and punish but if you don’t like what you see while you’re up there you just doublejump and go to top plat.”
The main way you want to be losing neutral is by the opposing Fox reading your fullhops.
Fiction likes to start the ditto with fullhops rather than playing the ground game.
You pressure fox by dashdancing and moving. Use frame advantages to allow the other player to whiff in a panic.

Punish

You want combos to lead to edgeguards rather than damage.
At around the 80% range it’s hard to kill Fox off of anything other than a grab
- Try hitting him offstage
“Getting a lot of damage into a kill is kinda the worst case”